Peter, on most waterways, it is illegal to use lights other than the occassional spotlight because it may help you see but the glare and reflections off the water will cause other boaters big problems in seeing so it's just not safe.  It's best at night to just let your eyes adjust to the darkness and then navigation isn't too bad.  I know that sometimes even the dash lights are enough to mess me up and I throw a towel over them.

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O'
"Little Mascara 3"
266BR,496 MAG-Bravo III

Pete,

The boat stereo looks great!!!!!  I want a sub, but I think I am going to put something under the back seat.

Kerry

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"I would rather be lost on the lake than found at home"

Thanks Kerry, It is not huge bass it just sounds real clear and absolute, I had a cheetah Stilletto before my fast boat and it had 4x 15's under the midcuddy that was fun but it was causing the Gel to crack, at least that's what the manufacturer said!!!

Mike yeah but if your the only one out there why not light up the water!!! I mean it is illegal do go over x mph on some water ways but when I hear the Blower Whine on the big boat don't think I let out, as well the lack of muffler's used to worry then I found out it was only a 50$ ticket so I run it open and the 2x's I have got busted I just send in the check for the 50$ so yeah... Laws were meant to be broken

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03 BR180
13th floor tower, full Kicker system, 4.3 Alpha 1, 23ss mirage prop barely getting 42mph,

You can do the 10's under the rear seat. All you have to do is have a front board made that is angled downward, towards the floor. That way the sub will "load" into the floor and will actually give you more output and snappier bass.

Using 2 subs together in a ported box in that configuration will give you a sick amount of bass! Pictures of my setup is coming. I just got it finished.

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Stewart Babineau
2005 225BR
427 Small Block (470 hp) with IMCO powerflow exhaust.
Bravo 1X with IMCO 1" shorter drive
Auto Meter Pro Marine gauge upgrade.
BIG Stereo

Stewart,

I look forward to seeing the pictures.  I have not decided what I am doing yet.

Kerry

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"I would rather be lost on the lake than found at home"

I may do this set of ten's under my rear seat but I like the storage room. If anything I may put the 2 tens in a fiberglass enclosure under the the pass side I will build then gel or paint to match the boat given the right specs it should hit hard but really the bass form the 4 6x9's is incredible alone I boxed the back of the ones unedr ther rear seat and then the ones in the front are pretty well echoed by location. It will be a winter job if I do the sub's...

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03 BR180
13th floor tower, full Kicker system, 4.3 Alpha 1, 23ss mirage prop barely getting 42mph,

WOW I wish I knew how to do a sound clip for anyone to hear this thing it is quite impressive for such a small boat and such little equipment.

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03 BR180
13th floor tower, full Kicker system, 4.3 Alpha 1, 23ss mirage prop barely getting 42mph,

Kerry,

I think you are going to like what I have done. The subs are in the middle and the sides are now extra storage area that can be accessed from the front instead of having to fiddle with the seat.  

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Stewart Babineau
2005 225BR
427 Small Block (470 hp) with IMCO powerflow exhaust.
Bravo 1X with IMCO 1" shorter drive
Auto Meter Pro Marine gauge upgrade.
BIG Stereo

Peter,

Just another 2 bits worth. 

 

Subs are a funny animal. Subs like to be placed close side by side so they can "couple". This "coupling" gives you additional bass output that is clean and crisp. You also don't end up with a whole bunch of phase issues. Phase issues detract from bass in a big way. Placement can make or break sub performance.  

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Stewart Babineau
2005 225BR
427 Small Block (470 hp) with IMCO powerflow exhaust.
Bravo 1X with IMCO 1" shorter drive
Auto Meter Pro Marine gauge upgrade.
BIG Stereo

Yeah when it comes to stereo's I am pretty bad a$$ as you showed me on the drive info I have made some insane system's. The subs are just in the boxes that were there previous of me getting the boat I just changed them from Alppine type E's to the Kicker's. I will this winter build a fiberglass enclosure under the helm on the pass side that will be insane I promise. I made 4x 8" speakers go 146.3 db in a chevy Tahoe, and my crew cab with a full fiberglass enclosure behind the seats. impossible to fit 12's behind ( according to most any shop) yes they are 12's go 141.9db so I am pretty savy on the stereo stuff. I just always amaze myself on how good I really am haha!!!

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03 BR180
13th floor tower, full Kicker system, 4.3 Alpha 1, 23ss mirage prop barely getting 42mph,

OK serious issue with my system I am totally lost I have the worst wine out of it all of a sudden the amp is 4ga from battery to the amp power and ground and I have even tried a seperate power and ground draped across the seats to see if it was the power wire and also tried different RCA's

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03 BR180
13th floor tower, full Kicker system, 4.3 Alpha 1, 23ss mirage prop barely getting 42mph,

Just from what I have read, I see a couple of potential (not saying anything wrong) issues with your system.

 1. Your subs are 4 ohms, did you wire them in series or parralel? (not the reason for whine, but maybe why you are not getting full power to your subs). I read in previous post that you are not getting lots of bass. With 2 10s and a 1000 watt kicker there should be PLENTY of bass.I

I am assuming you plugged them both in directly to amp. This is probably creating an 8 ohm load.  If you wire them properly you will get a 2 ohm load and get lots more power to the subs.

2. Did you use dist blocks for your ground on the amps?  How did you ground all those amps? PIcs?

3. well, maybe you shoud PM me or call quite a few things to ask.

 In the interim trying powering your head unit to the same location you are powering / grounding your amp. Do you have 1 battery or 2?

 

 

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Limited Edition 230BR 8.2Liter/502CI (GSI Volo Penta) DP-S

LAKATION

Project(s) Completed:
2000 Watt Stereo Systerm
Swimplatforms.com

Coming Soon:
Wakeboard Tower and Speaker Setup
Custom Graphics

I Havethe subs wired in 4 ohm, and am pushing about 125w RMS, into them when I ohmed them out, they are putting out just enough bass, yet not enough to ever blow them. They are not barely @ 1/3 gain. I could crank it but why they are just 2 comp SVC 10's.

The amp's are all individually wired and the grounds are all straight to the Battery, the power's are 0ga, to the fuse block the 4ga into each amp.

I have the power to the unit from the power strip it is getting a constant 12v, I added an additional 8ga wire from Batter to the strip, and the deck is grounded to the strip as well there is a jumper ground 12g from the main amp to the ground strip on the factory block.

Battery wise I have 2 brand new group29's in there the boat only had 1 group 24 to start.

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03 BR180
13th floor tower, full Kicker system, 4.3 Alpha 1, 23ss mirage prop barely getting 42mph,

Peter Idsinga:

I Havethe subs wired in 4 ohm, and am pushing about 125w RMS, into them when I ohmed them out, they are putting out just enough bass, yet not enough to ever blow them. They are not barely @ 1/3 gain. I could crank it but why they are just 2 comp SVC 10's.

The amp's are all individually wired and the grounds are all straight to the Battery, the power's are 0ga, to the fuse block the 4ga into each amp.

I have the power to the unit from the power strip it is getting a constant 12v, I added an additional 8ga wire from Batter to the strip, and the deck is grounded to the strip as well there is a jumper ground 12g from the main amp to the ground strip on the factory block.

Battery wise I have 2 brand new group29's in there the boat only had 1 group 24 to start.

 

I am confused I thought this was your system (took this from your first post):

6x9's = Kicker KS6930 3 ways x's 2 sets

Subs = Kicker comp CVX10 1500 watt ea x's 2

6.5 coax = Kicker KS600 2 way 1 set

6.5 component = Kicker KS650.2 x's 2 set's 

4 channel amps = Rockford Fosgate Power 500X  x's 2

Mono block = Kicker ZX1000.1 

 I was assuming you have the kicker ZX1000.1 (huge amp as in dimensions) powering the subs. Those CVX10s . . . if I remember correctly are 600 WATTS RMS each. They would thump very nice and clean in a sealed box with that amp.

 I am not sure what you mean by strip.

 Here is what I would do, I would get a 1/0 to 4 gauge out dist block. 1/0 can handle up to 325 AMPs of draw . .  which brings up a point did you use a fuse block within 18" inches of the battery? Put the dist block within the 3 foot reccomendation for the step down wiring to each amp. This will save a ton of money on that 1/0 wiring. Then you can easily power all the equipment from 1 battery.

Then do the same for the ground. If you are splitting the power between batteries, I would bet that is where you are picking up SOME noise. If you have all your amps on the same power source and same ground, plus ground your head unit back to the same location, this will help with isolation.

Also, I did not catch your battery setup. Are you running parallel or a battery switch? With that much power, I am assuming you have them in parallel so you can have a longer amp/hour life for your stereo.  I added a 200 AH battery for my system, plus I have a regualr marine battery to start the boat. Then when I want to charge my battery, I simply switch the perko and pull skiers for a while and charge up my monster battery. Of course I put the chargers one when I leave it in dry dock for the night/week.

Anyhow, summary. Power and Ground everything to the same battery. I am talking about your amps and head unit. Primary wire is dirt cheap, I would run it all the way to the battery. By not isolating the ground that his another place for noise to come in.

 Another potential is you are overdriving your alternator and it is damaged and introducing a lot of noise into your power system. This is rare but does happen.

 Hope some of this helps.

 

 

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Limited Edition 230BR 8.2Liter/502CI (GSI Volo Penta) DP-S

LAKATION

Project(s) Completed:
2000 Watt Stereo Systerm
Swimplatforms.com

Coming Soon:
Wakeboard Tower and Speaker Setup
Custom Graphics

While doing the install, I changed from the cvx's to the comp svc's, as the cvx's need alot more air space to sound good, and I am not all after the huge bass, just clean small amount of bass. As for wiring I have done PLenty and it is not my wiring, as I have said it is all 0ga to the distribution block, the fuse block is maybe 10"s away as the Battery's (2 seperate on a perko switch) are in the very very rear of the boat, and the fuse is on the rear wall of the transom. then the 0 goes to under the dash for the 2 550x's, one is fried i think that is my actuall issue will discuss later, and then split's to the 2 amps in 4 ga, really there is NO reason for the 0 ga, but I had a 50 ft roll left of it. then there is 0 ga going to the otherside to a fuse block with the 2x 4ga wire into the zx1000.1

The alternator is not an issue as it does this when the boat is NOT running as well, but what I have figured out is the front channel of one of the 550x's is done, maybe water damage as I had my buddies son pressure washing the interior here a few wweeks back right before I noticed the issue, but the way I have the RCA's jumpered to run both mid amps it was causing the noise into all lower channels. I am going to finish today wiring it all into just one of the 550x's but I will have to change a few other things to keep the ohm load from dropping and way over powering the system as this amp has potential to put out ALOT of power. It is one of the best ever amps Rockford has ever made imho. But after everything I went through re stranding wires and all it sucks it is something so laim, but I did find a guy back east to repair the amp for a air price... But thanks for your help Robert and sorry if I souond like an ass in some of that but I have done numerous competition systems in my day, The one I wish I had pics of is my 04 cheetah stiletto I had it had 4x 15's and so many components I forget exactly how many but that thing was unreal, I will post a pic of my silverado as well it is pretty sano!!!

 

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03 BR180
13th floor tower, full Kicker system, 4.3 Alpha 1, 23ss mirage prop barely getting 42mph,