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Looking at the 270 BR

Last post 03-06-2008, 5:40 PM by Ron Richmond. 14 replies.
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  •  03-05-2008, 10:33 AM 43226

    Looking at the 270 BR

    We currently own a 2005 Sea Ray 240 SD with a 350 Mag and Bravo III (which I am going to try to sell).  We are looking to move into a bigger boat with a softer ride.  I have looking at the 2008 270 and had a few questions for anyone who has experience with the boat.  I am curious how the hole shot is with the Merc 6.2 and Bravo III.  I like the efficiency of the small blocks, but am not willing to buy an under powered boat.  We do a lot of skiing, tubing and boarding, often with 4 adults and 4 kids in the boat.

    What kind of top end can we expect?  While I have only run wide open 3 or 4 times in the last four years, it's nice to know you can out run a storm.  Anyone who boats on Table Rock knows how fast a storm can pop up out of no where.  

    Generally, what kind of discount should I be looking for from a Crownline dealer?  I am thinking of waiting until late summer when the model years change over to 2009, and buying an 08.  I have found that Sea Ray, Four Winns and Chapparal all have very different pricing models, but I haven't dealt with any Crownline dealers.

    Finally, what can I expect from a Crownline in terms of quality and fit and finish.  We have been very happy with our Sea Ray, but it has been babied - we have only put 113 hours on it in 3 1/2 years. 

    I apprectiate any feedback you all have.  I have been reading your posts, and this seems like a very knowledgeable group! 

     

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  •  03-05-2008, 12:05 PM 43232 in reply to 43226

    Re: Looking at the 270 BR

    Tim, I don't have a 270BR but that will be my next one probably in the next year or two when I move up from my 225. I can tell you that as for the quality of a Crownline you won't be disappointed and will get many compliments and very good service after the sale from the dealer as well as from Crownline. We have had just a couple small warranty items come up on ours and they were taken care promptly by our dealer in Kansas City. You are also looking for a softer ride, you'll have it with a Crownline and you won't be disappointed. Hope this helps with some of your ????'s.   
  •  03-05-2008, 12:37 PM 43233 in reply to 43232

    Re: Looking at the 270 BR

    A friend has one with the 6.2.  He's happy with it--hole shot is fine with some passengers.  My dealer stocks the 270 with the 6.2 as the minimum size though.  I have the 6.2 in a 230BR and if I moved up, I'd go with the 375 h.p. 496.  For re-sale, I think it was be better also.
    Un-Civil-ized 2002 230BR, MX6.2 BIII on a Prestige Trailer. Moonstone/Amethyst with silver diamond graphics
  •  03-05-2008, 2:42 PM 43240 in reply to 43233

    Re: Looking at the 270 BR

    Tim, I have a 2000 BR and I have the 7.4L. My hole shot is very good with the BIII and I can hit 50-52 MPH with good conditions.

    The 270 weighs somewhat more than my 266, so if I was thinking of the 270, I don't think I'd be happy without the 496.

    I too, have outrun several storms on Table Rock and I am glad I have the big block. I bought mine from Jerry at Walt's in Nixa and they are great to work with.

    Jerry will make the deal right with you. Walt's in Nixa, Bud's Place at LoO and St Louis, and the dealership in KC(the name slips my mind) are all owned by the same guy. They are all good folks to work with. I'd get with Jerry in Nixa and let him make a deal for you.

    BTW: Andy runs the service dept at Walt's and has my vote for best service dept. He has always been more than fair with me.

    I don't think it will make much difference when you buy. Nobody keeps the exact boat you want in inventory. Personally, I've found the deal the same whether I order or buy off the floor. When you order the dealer does not have floor plan costs to contend with.

    Just my $.02

    You will love the 270. Great riding boat and will be good for water sports.

    Good Luck! 

    Check out the rally folder for June and join in.

    Let us know where on Table Rock you are at. We are near Baxter. 

     


  •  03-05-2008, 2:53 PM 43243 in reply to 43240

    Re: Looking at the 270 BR

    Dave the dealer in KC is Bruce Marine. Really great people to deal with. 
  •  03-05-2008, 3:28 PM 43249 in reply to 43243

    Re: Looking at the 270 BR

    I knew thatWink-I was having a brain fart-Thanks

  •  03-05-2008, 3:50 PM 43252 in reply to 43240

    Re: Looking at the 270 BR

    We are between State Park and Big Cedar.

    I got a quote from the dealer in St. Louis for roughly 30% off MSRP.  But they offered me $14,000 less for my boat than NADA.  I'm going to have to sell.

     

    Thanks. 

     

  •  03-05-2008, 6:47 PM 43259 in reply to 43252

    Re: Looking at the 270 BR

    That's another vote for the Crownlines. They hold their value really well.
  •  03-05-2008, 9:22 PM 43276 in reply to 43259

    Re: Looking at the 270 BR

    one thing i reccomend looking at when comparing Crownline vs. Brand X is looking down the side  wile on the trailer and look for "wavyness" that looks like bad body work on a car, Crownline is VERY!!! straight and true, i researched alot of boats before mine an was going to spend about 30,000 more than i did, THEN, i found a Crownline. And thats all she wrote. done deal and saved lots of $$$$$
    Danny and Jennifer Phillips
    2007 250CR 496MAG MPi
    "MONEY 2 BURN"
    Portage Public Marina
    Burns Harbor, IN
  •  03-05-2008, 9:40 PM 43284 in reply to 43226

    Re: Looking at the 270 BR

    Tim J Smith:

    Finally, what can I expect from a Crownline in terms of quality and fit and finish.  We have been very happy with our Sea Ray, but it has been babied

    If you have high expectations, you won't be disappointed.  I have owned SeaRays for the last seven years.  This season I traded in my boat that gave me years of enjoyment without a single problem on my first Crownline.  While my boat has not arrived at the dealer yet, there is a very similar one on his showroom floor.  I know I made a the right decision.  I'm pretty particular about things, and I'm completely satisfied with Crownline.  That's coming from a former SeaRay owner.

  •  03-05-2008, 11:58 PM 43296 in reply to 43252

    Re: Looking at the 270 BR

    Tim, If you do your boating on Table Rock, give Jerry at Walt's Boats in Nixa a call. Don't worry, you will not get a better price elsewhere. I agree with others here when I say there is no reason to wait for late summer to get your new 270. You will be able to sell your current boat easier now, you'll have your new 270 this season and I really do not think you will be paying any more for it!  Tell Jerry some Table Rock Crownies from Team Crownline sent you and said he should give you his best deal. Wink He will treat you fair and service after the sale is great.

    Walt's is the sponsoring dealership for the 2008 National Crowndezvous which will be held on Table Rock in June. It sure would be nice if you could have your new 270 by then and join us for the rally. Even if you do not yet have it, come to the Crowndezvous and meet a lot of wonderful Crownies! Beer Cool


    Gary
    "Dream On"
    2004 230BR Onyx & Moonstone
  •  03-06-2008, 11:43 AM 43309 in reply to 43296

    Re: Looking at the 270 BR

    Thanks for the comments everyone, they have been helpful.  I will vist Walt's next time I'm at TR and see if they are more interested than their "cousins" in St. Louis in coverting me into a Crownie.
  •  03-06-2008, 12:05 PM 43310 in reply to 43309

    Re: Looking at the 270 BR

    We've been Crownline owners now for about 8 years.  We sold our older Crownline, which we were quite pleased with but which turned out to be rather small for the new lake we just moved to (Ozarks).  We looked at other brands, but always came back to Crownline in terms of fit, finish and quality in relation to price.  The only other brand we've found to be comparable is Cobalt, but they are super-expensive.  Crownlines seem to have a high value ratio.  So, we bought a 2000 266 BR with a 7.4L MPI Merc Bravo III.  While it's not exactly a 270, I can tell you that the 266 has produced a soft, dry ride, and I would expect the 270 to do the same. 

    As far as engine options, my old man always says "there's no replacement for displacement."  The 6.2L engine is a great engine, smaller block, lighter weight, and has a similar horsepower rating to larger engines.  We considered this when we were looking at our Crownline.  The 350 mag has a similar hp rating to the 7.4L, however, in the end, we decided that we would prefer to have an engine that only needed to run in the middle to lower end of its power band even with a full load of people and fuel than one that had to struggle a bit when tubing with 8 passengers, 2 coolers and a fresh load of gas.  Our hope is that the larger engine will last longer because it isn't taxed as badly, and further that it will actually burn less fuel (except when we want to open it up to, like you said, outrun a storm). 

     As an example, we had an old Regal with a smaller V6 in it.  Ran great, but burned fuel heavily when lots of people were on board.  We upgraded to a Crownline 202 BR with a carb 7.4L.  To our surprise, we burned significantly less fuel, since the engine was less taxed. 

     
    In short, if you've got the cash, I'd say grab the 496, it is unlikely you will ever regret it.  However, the 6.2L is a completely serviceable engine, and as far as we're concerned, you can't go wrong with a Crownline. 

     


    Todd - 4MM Gravois Arm, LoO
    2000 266 BR 7.4L MPI BIII
    "A-TEAM"
  •  03-06-2008, 4:47 PM 43330 in reply to 43309

    Re: Looking at the 270 BR

    Tim, I don't have 270 but I do keep my 230 at Long Creek Marina. I also grew up right around Big Cedar.

  •  03-06-2008, 5:40 PM 43333 in reply to 43330

    Re: Looking at the 270 BR

    I ordered my 270CR a couple weeks ago and ended up about the same.  Just to give you a barometer....  I went with the 6.2 Bravo III, so hopefully we're not disappointed.  We won't do a lot of skiing or tubing however.

    Just to let you know, I am looking at the 1st or 2nd week of May for delivery.  That means they are about 10 weeks out if you order a boat.

     

    Ron 

     

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